Not at all. I have migrated to Nebula streaming for many of the YT videos that have been de-monitized. It appears to me, a non-creator, to be linked with Curiosity Stream documentaries. I'm told it pays better than YT and doesn't demonetize any videos for content or subject. Of course, I also belong to Patreon.
Wow, interesting. I have now googled more correctly. So it's 50/50 revenue share which is better than YouTube but still pretty not-great.
I'd be getting revenue based on whatever subscribers I brought them, nothing more. In effect I'd be getting paid 50% of the value of helping to promote Nebula and they'd be doing... nothing much in return as far as I can tell?
Apparently some very well known YouTubers have tried it and then left over business issues like these. If the big youtubers can't make it work in their favor with their big followings that seems like a red flag.
It's cool that they aren't bonkers about DMCA takedowns like YouTube is, but IMO the problem with YouTube is not the fact that YouTube handles DMCA claims. After all, I want artists to get paid. Not that the ruling class of the recording industry shares fairly with artists, mind you. But that's another rant entirely.
The problem is that rather than have a fair adjudication system they have a scorched earth approach with zero review. Currently, Nebula takes the opposite stance, "It's all fair use!" which will only work while they are under the radar. If the platform ever grows they will revise that or be buried in lawsuits by the big 3 recording industry elites.
So it's like, hey, you can do WHATEVER YOU WANT in the basement while mom's not home! But mom is, at some point, definitely coming home. It's her house.
The only way that approach works is if your streaming platform is a branch of the Chinese government like TikTok and you do not observe any copyright law.
Also, creators can't just apply. You have to be recommended by another YouTuber already on Nebula. So they're saying that they're "curated" but they are actually outsourcing the curation to people already in the club.
I know some other people who post videos but they're like me: literary comedy people. Which is to say, people whose content has been getting stepped on by YouTube for years.
I don't know any of the people who play video games nude or play guitar nude or hate vaccines nude, so, I'm not sure whom I could even ask to recommend me :)
Apr 21, 2023·edited Apr 21, 2023Liked by Jim Hodgson
Wow. Now I know why I am not a content maker :D. the things I watch on Nebula are all long form essays, so they don't do well on YT, just like your plays probably wouldn't. And that is so sad. There's always Patreon. I can't afford to subscribe to substack, I think you all should be paid, but if you're depending on old feeble folk on a fixed below poverty income, well. I throw a couple of bucks a month into the accounts I read.
Shame on thee for only including one handjob.
Really soiled the sleeping area on that one.
Have you considered Nebula?
I'm not familiar with it but I did some googling. I'm assuming you don't mean the Azerbaijani publishing house.
Not at all. I have migrated to Nebula streaming for many of the YT videos that have been de-monitized. It appears to me, a non-creator, to be linked with Curiosity Stream documentaries. I'm told it pays better than YT and doesn't demonetize any videos for content or subject. Of course, I also belong to Patreon.
Wow, interesting. I have now googled more correctly. So it's 50/50 revenue share which is better than YouTube but still pretty not-great.
I'd be getting revenue based on whatever subscribers I brought them, nothing more. In effect I'd be getting paid 50% of the value of helping to promote Nebula and they'd be doing... nothing much in return as far as I can tell?
Apparently some very well known YouTubers have tried it and then left over business issues like these. If the big youtubers can't make it work in their favor with their big followings that seems like a red flag.
It's cool that they aren't bonkers about DMCA takedowns like YouTube is, but IMO the problem with YouTube is not the fact that YouTube handles DMCA claims. After all, I want artists to get paid. Not that the ruling class of the recording industry shares fairly with artists, mind you. But that's another rant entirely.
The problem is that rather than have a fair adjudication system they have a scorched earth approach with zero review. Currently, Nebula takes the opposite stance, "It's all fair use!" which will only work while they are under the radar. If the platform ever grows they will revise that or be buried in lawsuits by the big 3 recording industry elites.
So it's like, hey, you can do WHATEVER YOU WANT in the basement while mom's not home! But mom is, at some point, definitely coming home. It's her house.
The only way that approach works is if your streaming platform is a branch of the Chinese government like TikTok and you do not observe any copyright law.
Also, creators can't just apply. You have to be recommended by another YouTuber already on Nebula. So they're saying that they're "curated" but they are actually outsourcing the curation to people already in the club.
I know some other people who post videos but they're like me: literary comedy people. Which is to say, people whose content has been getting stepped on by YouTube for years.
I don't know any of the people who play video games nude or play guitar nude or hate vaccines nude, so, I'm not sure whom I could even ask to recommend me :)
Wow. Now I know why I am not a content maker :D. the things I watch on Nebula are all long form essays, so they don't do well on YT, just like your plays probably wouldn't. And that is so sad. There's always Patreon. I can't afford to subscribe to substack, I think you all should be paid, but if you're depending on old feeble folk on a fixed below poverty income, well. I throw a couple of bucks a month into the accounts I read.
Nah, you're good. I'm mad about systemic problems, not the people kind enough to read :)
Sing it, brother! We the people have trained ourselves to expect IP to be free and completely devalued original creative work.